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Getting Started with Managing Bias

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Take the first steps in managing bias. Host Amber Clayton sits down with Sarah Bettman, founder & principal, Bettman Consulting Group, to discuss the cognition behind our biases and how to counteract them, as well as when it’s appropriate to solicit leadership buy-in and address them within your organizat

ion.This podcast is approved for .5 PDCs toward SHRM-CP and SHRM-SCP recertification. Listen to the complete episode to get your activity ID at the end. ID expires February 1,

2026Rate/review Honest HR on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, or wherever you listen to podca

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2025 Predictions Show

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n this uproarious episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, our dynamic duo, Joel and Chad, dive into their holiday escapades—think less about eggnog and more about egg on their faces from last year’s predictions. They gleefully dissect their 2024 forecasts, celebrating the rare victories and lamenting the epic fails with the finesse of a stand-up comedian bombing on sta

ge.They then throw the mic to some gues

ts: Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Recruiting & Onboarding at UPS  Emi Beredugo, Senior Manager, Recruiting Enablement  Lars Schmidt, Found, CEO at Amplify Talent Rebecca Volpano, VP of Product Marketing at Cielo  Sean

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2025 Predictions Show

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n this uproarious episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, our dynamic duo, Joel and Chad, dive into their holiday escapades—think less about eggnog and more about egg on their faces from last year’s predictions. They gleefully dissect their 2024 forecasts, celebrating the rare victories and lamenting the epic fails with the finesse of a stand-up comedian bombing on sta

ge.They then throw the mic to some gues

ts: Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Recruiting & Onboarding at UPS  Emi Beredugo, Sr. Level Recruiter Lars Schmidt, Found, CEO at Amplify Talent Rebecca Volpano, VP of Product Marketing at Cielo  Sean “Teddy”

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Chris Forman’s Wild Appcast Ride

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n this episode, we chat with Chris Forman, founder of Appcast, about building a recruitment tech powerhouse while avoiding the classic startup trap of “too many ideas, not enough brains.

”We cover Appcast’s rise from “rail builder” to Stepstone acquisition (thanks, “Daddy Warbucks” Axel Springer) and the buzzworthy Bayard deal. Was it genius strategy or just IPO window dressing? Chris doesn’t hold back—and might admit to ruffling so

me agency feathers.We also dive into why recruitment tech still struggles with basics like “Does this candidate meet the job requirements?” and whether industry leaders are the next Blockbuster in a Netflix world. Plus,

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Chris Forman’s Wild Appcast Ride

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n this episode, we chat with Chris Forman, founder of Appcast, about building a recruitment tech powerhouse while avoiding the classic startup trap of “too many ideas, not enough brains.

”We cover Appcast’s rise from “rail builder” to Stepstone acquisition (thanks, “Daddy Warbucks” Axel Springer) and the buzzworthy Bayard deal. Was it genius strategy or just IPO window dressing? Chris doesn’t hold back—and might admit to ruffling so

me agency feathers.We also dive into why recruitment tech still struggles with basics like “Does this candidate meet the job requirements?” and whether industry leaders are the next Blockbuster in a Netflix world. Plus,

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What it Truly Means to be an Ally

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Allyship is a verb. And when done correctly, it can be a great tool to further your I&D goals. Host Monique Akanbi sits down with Victoria Mattingly, founder and CEO of Mattingly Solutions, and Sertrice Shipley, founder & CEO of Plan to Action LLC, to dig into common misconceptions about allyship, what the ally/partner relationship looks like, and what HR professionals can do to be a good ally.&n

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Trust Issues with AI in Recruiting

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Jason Pistulka—Assistant VP of Talent Acquisition Operations at HCA Healthcare—graces us with his presence to drop some truth bombs on recruitment. Spoiler alert: he’s not here to hand out AI participation trophies. Jason throws shade at the industry’s blind faith in AI as a recruitment savior, arguing that maybe, just maybe, getting your operational act together would be a b

etter idea.He spills the tea on HCA’s branding game—giving their hospitals local names to charm their markets—and flexes their scale and healthcare cred like a boss. Oh, and remember the COVID hiring

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2024 It’s a Wrap!

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap ShowI

n this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year.F

eatured Highlights:

ZipRecruiter is Lost” (March 2024)  “Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery”  (March 2024)  “Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed (June 2024)  “Monster & CareerBuilder Merger” (July 2024) “Indeed Tomfuker

y” (August 2024)  Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth

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2024 It’s a Wrap!

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap ShowI

n this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year.F

eatured Highlights:

ZipRecruiter is Lost” (March 2024)  “Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery”  (March 2024)  “Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed (June 2024)  “Monster & CareerBuilder Merger” (July 2024) “Indeed Tomfuker

y” (August 2024)  Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth

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2024 It’s a Wrap!

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap ShowI

n this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year.F

eatured Highlights:

ZipRecruiter is Lost” (March 2024)  “Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery”  (March 2024)  “Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed (June 2024)  “Monster & CareerBuilder Merger” (July 2024) “Indeed Tomfuker

y” (August 2024)  Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth

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Burnout: Symptoms, Recovery, and Prevention

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How can you tell if you or a colleague is suffering from burnout? How do you then recover from and prevent it? Host Monique Akanbi dives into these questions with Deidre Gestrin, Founder at Abundant Wellness Essentials, Wellness Consultant, Author, and Trainer. From the individual to organizational level, Deidre shares actionable insights on how to manage burnout.&n

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Top 2024 Topics & Expert Insights

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ehold! A holiday spectacle so dazzling, so insightful, it’ll practically guarantee you a promotion (results may vary, void where prohibited, don’t quit your day job). We’ve wrangled all our favorite (and some we just tolerated) guests from 2024 to deliver scorching hot takes on the burning dumpster fire that is talent, tech, and recruitment. Think less “fireside chat” and more “dumpster fire cha

t.”From AI’s inevitable robot overlord takeover of recruiting (will they finally fix the ATS? Don’t hold your breath) to the thrilling return of the office (aka mandatory fun times!), we’ve got the scoop you need to maybe survive

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Cringeworthy Mistakes: with Tim Sackett

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roadcasting live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Tim Sackett—dropped some truth bombs with Joel Cheesman about the cringe-worthy mistakes corporations make in their talent acquisition hust

le.Oh, and guess what? Sackett’s cooking up another book, creatively titled Talent Fix Volume 2—because one wasn’t enough. Expect fresh content, hot takes, and, presumably, a few digs at HR’s favorite

buzzwords.Sackett didn’t hold back on the AI hype train, either. Turns out, he’s underwhelmed by the industry’s cutting-edge “meh” when it comes to applying AI in TA. Meanwhile, corporate America is flailing with performance management as everyone adjusts to the post-pandemic

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2024 Naughty and Nice Special

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elcome to the Chat and Cheese Podcast’s holiday extravaganza, where HR gossip meets holiday cheer — and no one is safe. It’s like your company holiday party, but with more alcohol and fewer awkward dance moves (

maybe).Holiday Coal Recipients: The Master of Deception The Corporate Grinch The Kings of “Almost There” Holiday Heroes: The Billion-Dollar Badass The Pop Powerhouse The Viral Appetizer

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hought:Whether you’re running from accountability or running the world, Chad & Joel see you. In a year filled with corporate antics, unlikely successes, and viral cheese pulls, they’ve made their holiday list — an

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