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2025 Predictions Show

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n this uproarious episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, our dynamic duo, Joel and Chad, dive into their holiday escapades—think less about eggnog and more about egg on their faces from last year’s predictions. They gleefully dissect their 2024 forecasts, celebrating the rare victories and lamenting the epic fails with the finesse of a stand-up comedian bombing on sta

ge.They then throw the mic to some gues

ts: Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Recruiting & Onboarding at UPS  Emi Beredugo, Senior Manager, Recruiting Enablement  Lars Schmidt, Found, CEO at Amplify Talent Rebecca Volpano, VP of Product Marketing at Cielo  Sean

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2025 Predictions Show

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n this uproarious episode of the Chad and Cheese Podcast, our dynamic duo, Joel and Chad, dive into their holiday escapades—think less about eggnog and more about egg on their faces from last year’s predictions. They gleefully dissect their 2024 forecasts, celebrating the rare victories and lamenting the epic fails with the finesse of a stand-up comedian bombing on sta

ge.They then throw the mic to some gues

ts: Matt Lavery, Global Director of Sourcing, Recruiting & Onboarding at UPS  Emi Beredugo, Sr. Level Recruiter Lars Schmidt, Found, CEO at Amplify Talent Rebecca Volpano, VP of Product Marketing at Cielo  Sean “Teddy”

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Chris Forman’s Wild Appcast Ride

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n this episode, we chat with Chris Forman, founder of Appcast, about building a recruitment tech powerhouse while avoiding the classic startup trap of “too many ideas, not enough brains.

”We cover Appcast’s rise from “rail builder” to Stepstone acquisition (thanks, “Daddy Warbucks” Axel Springer) and the buzzworthy Bayard deal. Was it genius strategy or just IPO window dressing? Chris doesn’t hold back—and might admit to ruffling so

me agency feathers.We also dive into why recruitment tech still struggles with basics like “Does this candidate meet the job requirements?” and whether industry leaders are the next Blockbuster in a Netflix world. Plus,

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Chris Forman’s Wild Appcast Ride

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n this episode, we chat with Chris Forman, founder of Appcast, about building a recruitment tech powerhouse while avoiding the classic startup trap of “too many ideas, not enough brains.

”We cover Appcast’s rise from “rail builder” to Stepstone acquisition (thanks, “Daddy Warbucks” Axel Springer) and the buzzworthy Bayard deal. Was it genius strategy or just IPO window dressing? Chris doesn’t hold back—and might admit to ruffling so

me agency feathers.We also dive into why recruitment tech still struggles with basics like “Does this candidate meet the job requirements?” and whether industry leaders are the next Blockbuster in a Netflix world. Plus,

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Trust Issues with AI in Recruiting

Live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Jason Pistulka—Assistant VP of Talent Acquisition Operations at HCA Healthcare—graces us with his presence to drop some truth bombs on recruitment. Spoiler alert: he’s not here to hand out AI participation trophies. Jason throws shade at the industry’s blind faith in AI as a recruitment savior, arguing that maybe, just maybe, getting your operational act together would be a b

etter idea.He spills the tea on HCA’s branding game—giving their hospitals local names to charm their markets—and flexes their scale and healthcare cred like a boss. Oh, and remember the COVID hiring

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2024 It’s a Wrap!

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap ShowI

n this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year.F

eatured Highlights:

ZipRecruiter is Lost” (March 2024)  “Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery”  (March 2024)  “Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed (June 2024)  “Monster & CareerBuilder Merger” (July 2024) “Indeed Tomfuker

y” (August 2024)  Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth

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2024 It’s a Wrap!

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap ShowI

n this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year.F

eatured Highlights:

ZipRecruiter is Lost” (March 2024)  “Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery”  (March 2024)  “Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed (June 2024)  “Monster & CareerBuilder Merger” (July 2024) “Indeed Tomfuker

y” (August 2024)  Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth

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2024 It’s a Wrap!

The Chad & Cheese Podcast 2024 Recap ShowI

n this special year-end recap, Chad and Cheese revisit the biggest moments and most talked-about episodes of 2024. Packed with insights, hot takes, and snarky commentary, this episode delivers a curated journey through the stories that defined the HR tech industry over the past year.F

eatured Highlights:

ZipRecruiter is Lost” (March 2024)  “Workday Sucker Punches Eightfold and Beamery”  (March 2024)  “Bullhorn Strikes Back at Indeed (June 2024)  “Monster & CareerBuilder Merger” (July 2024) “Indeed Tomfuker

y” (August 2024)  Chad and Cheese also hint at exciting plans for 2025, promising new voices, brash opinions, and more in-depth

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Top 2024 Topics & Expert Insights

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ehold! A holiday spectacle so dazzling, so insightful, it’ll practically guarantee you a promotion (results may vary, void where prohibited, don’t quit your day job). We’ve wrangled all our favorite (and some we just tolerated) guests from 2024 to deliver scorching hot takes on the burning dumpster fire that is talent, tech, and recruitment. Think less “fireside chat” and more “dumpster fire cha

t.”From AI’s inevitable robot overlord takeover of recruiting (will they finally fix the ATS? Don’t hold your breath) to the thrilling return of the office (aka mandatory fun times!), we’ve got the scoop you need to maybe survive

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Cringeworthy Mistakes: with Tim Sackett

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roadcasting live from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Tim Sackett—dropped some truth bombs with Joel Cheesman about the cringe-worthy mistakes corporations make in their talent acquisition hust

le.Oh, and guess what? Sackett’s cooking up another book, creatively titled Talent Fix Volume 2—because one wasn’t enough. Expect fresh content, hot takes, and, presumably, a few digs at HR’s favorite

buzzwords.Sackett didn’t hold back on the AI hype train, either. Turns out, he’s underwhelmed by the industry’s cutting-edge “meh” when it comes to applying AI in TA. Meanwhile, corporate America is flailing with performance management as everyone adjusts to the post-pandemic

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2024 Naughty and Nice Special

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elcome to the Chat and Cheese Podcast’s holiday extravaganza, where HR gossip meets holiday cheer — and no one is safe. It’s like your company holiday party, but with more alcohol and fewer awkward dance moves (

maybe).Holiday Coal Recipients: The Master of Deception The Corporate Grinch The Kings of “Almost There” Holiday Heroes: The Billion-Dollar Badass The Pop Powerhouse The Viral Appetizer

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hought:Whether you’re running from accountability or running the world, Chad & Joel see you. In a year filled with corporate antics, unlikely successes, and viral cheese pulls, they’ve made their holiday list — an

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Using Internal Comms to Shape Employer Brands

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ive from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese corner Audra Knight, the employer branding wizard at Foundation Medicine, to spill the tea on how companies can stop being boring and actually build a brand people care about. Audra preaches the gospel of internal communications, because apparently, it’s not enough to just have a logo and a “We’re Hiring!” po

st on LinkedIn.She dishes on the art of getting your employees to share their stories without bribing them (much), making your company seem like a place where people want to work—not just survive. Audra also marvels at the

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Using Internal Comms to Shape Employer Brands

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ive from the Shaker Green Room at RecFest USA, Chad & Cheese corner Audra Knight, the employer branding wizard at Foundation Medicine, to spill the tea on how companies can stop being boring and actually build a brand people care about. Audra preaches the gospel of internal communications, because apparently, it’s not enough to just have a logo and a “We’re Hiring!” po

st on LinkedIn.She dishes on the art of getting your employees to share their stories without bribing them (much), making your company seem like a place where people want to work—not just survive. Audra also marvels at the

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Firing Squad Illoominus’ Noelle London

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n this episode of The Chad and Cheese podcast, Noelle London, founder and CEO of Illoominus, discusses her AI-powered people intelligence platform designed to integrate and analyze HR data. She shares insights on the challenges of dirty data, the importance of strategic partnerships, and the competitive landscape in HR technology. The conversation also covers funding strategies, the role of Techstars, and how Illoominus aims to provide actionable insights for HR leaders to make informed decisions.C

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0:00 Introduction to Illoominus and Noelle London0

3:36 Pitching Illuminus: The AI-Powered People Intelligence Platform0

8:10 Funding and Growth: Navigating the Financial Landscape1

2:35 Understanding the HR Tech Landscape

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